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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:32 am Post subject: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (102772 Reply with quote

Hey all,

After a couple of weeks of real bashing, since the winter is finally over I have been breaking my lower front bulkhead (diff housing) quite frequently. I am on forth, and at $26 a piece it starts to add up. Of course it breaks from my bad landings, and breaks at the lower arm pin location. Usually takes the two lower purple metal pieces with it.

I'm thinking it could be due to my RPM arms, the arms aren't braking and therefore transferring the load to where they mount, the bulkhead of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

holy smokes never heard of em coming apart that bad. as far as the cost ive picked up complete diffs on fleabay for less than 26 bux and they came stuffed with BP gears.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

i would same the RPM arms are the problem like you said. ?theres tough but they dont allow enough give. ?I dont think you HAVE to run composite diff cases on the flux regular ones would prolly suffice if your having that many break.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-Savage-X-EZ-Access-Differential-Case-Bulkheads_W0QQitemZ390178640136QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5ad8759108
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Savage-X-K4-6-SS-Front-Rear-Lower-Bulkhead-Plates-21-25_W0QQitemZ300414424585QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45f2185609
stock up on cheap ones if you want to keep the RPM arms.  lol
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

88gtanotchback wrote (View Post):
i would same the RPM arms are the problem like you said. ?theres tough but they dont allow enough give. ?I dont think you HAVE to run composite diff cases on the flux regular ones would prolly suffice if your having that many break.


The only problem with that is if he's breaking the composite ones left and right, he'll REALLY be breaking the one's that aren't composite! I'm also of the opinion that the RPM control arms are transfering the stress to the weakest link which would be that diff case "plate". Now, what to do about it, that's a tough one.  


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

I have seen guys with metal diff case. Idk where to get 'em but I'm sure there is something like that...


Maybe this can be helpful http://www.rcplanet.com/Integy_HPI_Savage_Gear_Box_p/intt7015s.htm .. metal diff case for $25  Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

supastar1568 wrote (View Post):
Hey all,

After a couple of weeks of real bashing, since the winter is finally over I have been breaking my lower front bulkhead (diff housing) quite frequently. I am on forth, and at $26 a piece it starts to add up. Of course it breaks from my bad landings, and breaks at the lower arm pin location. Usually takes the two lower purple metal pieces with it.

I'm thinking it could be due to my RPM arms, the arms aren't braking and therefore transferring the load to where they mount, the bulkhead of course.


Did you mean part# 102272? I couldn't find 102772. http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/102272/

I thought about getting these http://www.rcplanet.com/Golden_Horizons_Bulkhead_p/ghh02618.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

FLM makes some alum. bulks.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

i run dual purple aluminum braces in the front.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

I use HPI graphite braces.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

MrSnuggles wrote (View Post):
i run dual purple aluminum braces in the front.


Great idea!!!
Can you explain how you did this with the hinge pins?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

KrashKrieg wrote (View Post):
MrSnuggles wrote (View Post):
i run dual purple aluminum braces in the front.


Great idea!!!
Can you explain how you did this with the hinge pins?


X2!!! brilliant idea for a little more strength... I have plenty of the braces...

I nver considered upgrading my bulks to a arms.
Firstly i break a loot of a arms and they break because of my driving. I would prefer to replace a arms than bulks. So thats why i dont upgrade...
Bulks i would upgrade to metal, but i dont see the point as i dont want to increase the weight of the truck...
metal bulks ?could be a great idea with the flux considering how violent the motor is. It would def keep the diff in place and prevent the pinion shredding if there is any movement in there...

Get rid of you rpm a arms annd go back to stock. ?cheap and easy to replace and are as strong as you need them to be, but weak enough so that they will give way anad prevent damage to other parts
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

look at the picture, see the black spacer in between?  i cut that of a broken upper or lower arm pin.

i ditched the machine screw idea and used the original pins, they are just long enough.

now cut away the front pin stoppers from the skid plate to make room for the extra aluminum brace.

now find some longer screws that will replace the original crews that hold the aluminum front plate, note the new longer screws must go just as far into the bulkhead as the originals did.

now you have the bulkhead assembled with everything ready except you need pin stoppers.

now find some plastic pieces that you can epoxy or ca clue on the front aluminum brace in front of the pins so they cant move back and forth, you may need to make a recess in them with a drill if the pins are too long.

you can make changes as you like while doing the mod if something pops up in your mind that might work better to keep the pins from walking back and forth.

i hope this explains the mod well enough and will be of some help. if not i'll try and dig up my truck and find the charger for my camera.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

J1A1H wrote (View Post):
KrashKrieg wrote (View Post):
MrSnuggles wrote (View Post):
i run dual purple aluminum braces in the front.


Great idea!!!
Can you explain how you did this with the hinge pins?


X2!!! brilliant idea for a little more strength... I have plenty of the braces...

I nver considered upgrading my bulks to a arms.
Firstly i break a loot of a arms and they break because of my driving. I would prefer to replace a arms than bulks. So thats why i dont upgrade...
Bulks i would upgrade to metal, but i dont see the point as i dont want to increase the weight of the truck...
metal bulks ?could be a great idea with the flux considering how violent the motor is. It would def keep the diff in place and prevent the pinion shredding if there is any movement in there...

Get rid of you rpm a arms annd go back to stock. ?cheap and easy to replace and are as strong as you need them to be, but weak enough so that they will give way anad prevent damage to other parts


this is the reason i did this mod. i wanted the arms to be the weak link but not the bulkhead.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

MrSnuggles wrote (View Post):
now you have the bulkhead assembled with everything ready except you need pin stoppers.

now find some plastic pieces that you can epoxy or ca clue on the front aluminum brace in front of the pins so they cant move back and forth, you may need to make a recess in them with a drill if the pins are too long.


Thanks for the explain, i understand most, but it does look like you actually screwed a nut and washer onto the PIN end itself?!

Did you use tap/die to thread the end?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

the picture is just taken while i was just assembling stuff randomly to get an idea of how i wanted my setup to be.

i did not end up using the threaded rods and nuts. i ended up using the stock pins and longer screws for the purple plate.

the threaded pins are stainless pins that i threaded and come from my hellfire front arm mod.

here are pics of my hellfire setup, the rods just happen to fit the savage as well, but i did not use them as the pins are not hard enough.






last picture is while i was messing around


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

if you guys want i can put together a dual brace kit with all the hardware.

kit would be laser cut out of stainless steel for maximum strength.( as parts are small extra weight would be minimum)

this would eliminate bulkheads ripping apart from front end collision to either arms (wheels) as it divides the force over both lower arms pins (as the force is trying to rip one of the pins out of the bulkhead the braces make sure that the force is equally transferred to the other side).

i have been thinking about going into business making rc mod parts for some time now and i might as well start here if someone is interested.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

V0RT3X wrote (View Post):
FLM makes some alum. bulks.


Did you mean this one?
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail.php?prod=FLM40000&cat=109

I ordered that and I can't figure out how to get it to work. It's separated differently than the stock one, the two sides pull apart instead of the front away from the back. The drive shaft cups do not fit through the wholes in the side and once the diff is unassembled, there's no way that I can find to screw it back together once you close up the two sides. Maybe this is the wrong bulkhead or I'm not doing it right, anyone know?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

Yeah, I re-installed the stock arms, but left the upper arms RPM, I will see how that works.

Basically, on the arm, where the mounting pin slides through is the break location. This area is beefed up on the RPM arms, therefore the arm does not break and pulls the pin right out of the bulkhead, causing that to break instead.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

i spent about two times today designing the kit i'm going to put together.

somehow i got lost in my excitement and got totally hooked up on drawing cat pictures.


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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else going through front bulkheads like crazy (10 Reply with quote

Well, I put the stock arms back on and it lasted up until now....after a weak jump too.

Gonna have to order my 5th bulkhead, these are expensive. Maybe I'll go aluminum here or try to give more support than the weak purple braces.
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