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| What engine is reliable, fast, perfect for a savage? |
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HYPERactive Savage Extraordinaire

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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I did get a Roto-Start for it, but I do prefer pullstart for the reason that you don't have to carry extra batts and the starting wand around all the time.
I have already broken the factory pullstart for the Picco, and I haven't even got a full tank through it yet! It seems that the hex doesn't engage the pullstart enough and may be putting a side load on the pullstart causing an uneven load on the spool, making the spool break. I would think that about 3-5 mm of spacers on the hex may allow the pullstart to take the load better and last a little longer. |
Need more money! Can't keep up with the Jones' !!!
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willisdeez Savage Novice

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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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can you use the rotostart to break in the picco? i'm sorry if i sound like a noobie. i guess i am hehe  |
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CRSMP5 Savage Extraordinaire

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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| roto start.. picco NO WAY.. you will break the 1 way bearing housing due to flooding.. |
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willisdeez Savage Novice

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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| dooooh i just got the rotostart last weekend! S-25 it is! |
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Avalanche Savage Enthusiast

Joined: Apr 26, 2003 Posts: 148
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Keep your old .21bb engines for fun and just get a Force .25 from ultimate hobbies for $109. The S.25 has almost identical output figures and the Force is a tried and true rock solid performer. Sending your old engine and $100 dollars PLUS shipping is a horrible deal when you consider the Force at $109. I'm of the opinion that the S-25 is nothing but a primped and polished Force 25 anyway. Thats my opinion. |
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willisdeez Savage Novice

Joined: Aug 22, 2003 Posts: 58
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:47 am Post subject: |
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i saw this in the HPI forums on the S-25. It has a little more HP than the force 25 w/ composite carb and a better heatsink.
Size: .25
Horsepower: 2.5 @ 29,000
Maximum RPM: 38,000
Heatsink Head: Machined Billet Aluminum (purple anodized)
Case: Black Heatsink Coating
Carburetor: Composite
Carb Adjustments: High and Low
Connecting Rod: Dual Bushing
Construction: ABC
The S-25 engine is manufactured for us by Force to our specifications. There are significant differences between the S-25 and the Force 25. Most notable are: billet aluminum head, composite carb, dual con-rod bushings. That means the S-25 will have better cooling, better hot-temp performance, easier hot-temp restarting, and longer con-rod life. We have also simplified the carb by eliminating the Mid-Speed needle for easier tuning.
The engine exchange program for the S-25 will begin in the middle of September.
NOTE: All manufacturers test their engines differently so it is almost meaningless to compare numbers between brands. HPI relies on the engine manufacturer to give us the ratings. |
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alexis007 Savage Extraordinaire

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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| 1 wrote: | | Only down side to the Picco is the garbage pullstart they put on it, from what I have heard. I will be starting breakin on it today. |
Yes, the string is under size for a large engine, but as long as you don't pull it over 12 inches you'll be fine, I've got mine for a while now and I don't have a problem with it. |
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willisdeez Savage Novice

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| i've read all the posts about the wasp and picco but if they are the same engine, why is the wasp cheaper?!?!? i saw it for 154 when the picco is 189. I went to a store today and they said 1 mth for the picco, 4 days for the wasp. |
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tripplefatty Savage Newbie

Joined: Aug 17, 2003 Posts: 47
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:17 am Post subject: |
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i think the wasp has a cast head on it..???
jamie.. |
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CRSMP5 Savage Extraordinaire

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| paying for the name... picco vs orion is completly different companies with 2 completly different known qualities.. so that extra for a picco is for the name.. |
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willisdeez Savage Novice

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| got my picco! same price as the wasp at ultimate hobbies !! woohoo!! |
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savagepoint21 Savage Extraordinaire

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| should i get a s25 or wasp? |
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savagepoint21 Savage Extraordinaire

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| I'm a 15 year old kid...i just bought the savage 21 and my dad got the ss...i love the ss...but i love mine too |
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savagepoint21 Savage Extraordinaire

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Bad news...I sent my engine back to california bcz it had a bad connecting rod and it was only a week old...i told them i expect a new motor...we'll see wut happens...i'll keep u all informed  |
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savgbashr Savage Extraordinaire

Joined: Sep 10, 2003 Posts: 747 Location: Austin,TX
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| get a wasp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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