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PeteHateley
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: New cage design Reply with quote

Right, here we go again, as I didnt sell the sav, ive gone off on one and made another cage Rolling Eyes

Ive made this from a crazy material sample that my supplier gave me, I cannot remember the name of it as my supplier was showing me its durability at the time, you basically can bend it over on its self and its shatterproof, Its also VERY light, it weighs at least half that of the Delrin cage, which is nice.

Its a rough mockup at the moment for testing, using the supplied material.
Ive kept with a similar design as before (why re-invent the wheel). Its extremley easy to work with aswell, it took me 2 hrs to knock this up.

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Im about to take it out for a test run. Very Happy

Oh and whilst I was taking the piccys I took a little one showing the anti shock setup on my mid tank.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:36 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

hmm... looks like a real good sturdy foudation. it lso looks alot like the cage twisted-toys makes. but i have to say, its nice.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

Holy cow dude that looks awsome. I see you got it onto the stock length chassi. How strong is the back mounting..?

You did an awsome job. I bet you no acheaved an indestructable cage...!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

Cool designing on the cage... That setup looks strong, have you battle tested it yet?


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If its mounting holds up, the plastic will never break. I have tested the materials in every way. Th only thing that will ruin it is if the tepature outside reaches 500 degrees. Thats the only thing that will damage this material. So it is truely 100% indestructable..!!!

If you didnt have a mid tank you wouldnt be able to access the gas tank. Thats where I am at with my design.


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One tip I can give you that may help is to use threaded rod all the way through the cross braces. That makes for a solid one peice unit. Then the screws can not get ripped out. Just something I found to be a needed with my design.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:34 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

Looks almost exactly like my Half-Back Cage that Skipstr made for me...should hold up to some serious abuse as long as the mounting points are good.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:37 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

Hehe, cheers peeps ive tested it yesterday, so far its 100% solid, ive managed to rip a hub carrier in half though.


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What material is it? It looks like it might be clear UHMW Rod.
Thanks. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:42 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

Ill be able to get the material spec later today (as im at work).

The rear setup is pretty sturdy (now I attaced the lower brace), it prooved to be 100% solid with the other cage, so im hoping no hiccups with this one. Only issues is that the hinge pins are going to come out unless I design a retainer for them (which is next job).

I tried to destroy it all weekend, its holding up fine, I has a certain amount of flex, say 20%, which seems to soak up all the solid impacts.

Although when I went to my LHS to get a new hub carrier I came away with a Mini Monster (which im now converting into a Mini Savage) Very Happy


Z.28R Monster, 17/49, HPI ribbed pipe, HPI Filter, MP mod, throttle mod, Spiders, Batt mod, Dual Discs, 23mm Velocity's & BJ's, some alloy bits (where needed). HM cage and skid
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:04 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

UPDATE: The cage is holding up great, no damage what so ever!

The material im using is Polypropylene.
Material Spec http://www.boedeker.com/polyp_p.htm

At the moment it fits the stock savage no problems, im going to make it fit a stock savage with the the LST shock mounting kit (by Kudos) fitted next.

PS im hoping to get vid footage of the cage in action in a week or so.


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